Atheists Can’t Prove That Richard Dawkins Exists.
Comments(41) I’m fucking tired of the Godless endlessly moaning about how God does not exist when they can’t prove anything themselves.
Next time I meet an Atheist I’m gonna challenge them to prove that Richard Dawkins exists. I’m willing to bet on my mothers life that they won’t be able to.
When it comes down to it, Atheists only have faith in Richard Dawkins existence. Most haven’t met him. And for those that have met him how can they prove that it was actually the real Richard Dawkins? Or that Richard Dawkins even exists as a concept?
How can they be sure that “The God Delusion” wasn’t ghost-written by employees in a sweat shop in the Far East? The answer is, they can’t. Atheists have as much faith as God-fearing Christians do, which is why they are hypocrites.
It just goes to show that Atheists are only rejecting Jesus out of spite for God, not due to a lack of evidence as there is as much evidence for the existence of Jesus as there is for Dawkins. Yet they wholeheartedly believe in Richard Dawkins. How naive are these people?
I challenge any Atheists reading this blog to prove that Dawkins exists. I’m tired of having my faith challenged, so now the ball is in your court. Now you’ll know what it’s like to feel persecuted and humiliated when you’re laughed out of a room for simply believing the Truth.
Christians. We’re finally winning the battle against the Godless. Amen.
You silly guy. Richard has a drivers license, birth certificate, friends that hang with him, etc.
God has none of these things.
How do I know that you exist?
I’ve seen Dawkins speak before, live, and have asked him questions personally. Seems pretty real to me.
“I challenge any theists reading this blog to prove that God exists. I’m tired of having my lack of faith challenged, so now the ball is in your court.”
Your turn.
Umm…I hate to break this to you mate, but we’re simply speaking about a simple chain of logic here. We see humans every day, and those humans have a certain collection of beliefs. Some of these humans will publish those beliefs in books such as the Bible or The God Delusion. Since I have previous experience that A)Humans exist and B) Humans have a tendency to want to communicate their beliefs to others, I can accept, logically that a man known as Richard Dawkins exists, and he wrote The God Delusion. Furthermore, that belief was corroborated when I attended one of his university lectures while he was on tour. If, hypothetically the oceans started parting without the assistance of engineers, Forests sprung up overnight without the assistance of some as-yet-uninvented technology, and the shekinah glory cloud appeared before me and started telling me to do this or that, and I determined that it wasn’t the result of an exothermic chemical reaction and a megaphone, I would consider accepting on the same chain of logic that a god exists. As these events have not occured, I will refrain from the belief in a god.
“I’m tired of having my faith challenged” — hahahaha that is so funny its not even funny. Sir, you are a knob.
To all the Atheists of the world … make me a flower. Make the sun shine. Make the moon glow. Make a thunder storm. Make it rain. Make the heavens, the earth, the oceans, the mountains.
These are a few examples that God exists and if you open your minds and hearts instead of your mouths all the time, you will see all of God’s creation.
I’ve shaken the mans hand?? You are bat shit crazy.
In response to Wini:
To all the theists of the world … make me a flower. Make the sun shine. Make the moon glow. Make a thunder storm. Make it rain. Make the heavens, the earth, the oceans, the mountains.
These are a few examples that things exist and if you open your minds and hearts instead of your mouths all the time, you will see a bunch of things.
The idea is that you can’t really prove anyone exists. Dawkins or God. Thank you, author of this blog.
In response to Wini. How can we possibly make all of those things? most of what you have mentioned is on such a colossal scale that it would be impossible for us to make, although we have made thunderstorms, through climate change. Also thankyou to Devon for mentioning the simple chain of logic, I have also witnessed a Dawkins lecture at my own university in cambridge.
I have full respect for christians, and am relatively envious of such blind faith as i am a severe sceptic, but you do take offence easily. If your faith is that cemented, then why do you have to call Dawkins a c*nt for voicinbg his opinions. If your Judeo-Christian-Islamic god exists then why should you give such an insignificant minion of science like Dawkins the time of day?
I await your reply
Also, well said winipoo
Classic.
You think you’re winning.
Here’s a little test for you: I deny the existence of the ‘holy spirit’.
What do you know? I’m still here.
God existing.
Classic.
I sent some evil spirits into my pigs today so I know the Bible and God are real.
Dawkins is a very intelligent man who has one goal, to put an end to this ridicules thing called religion. It was developed thousands of years ago by uneducated irrational primitive beings. By the same people who thought the world was flat, and the stars were Gods, and the same people who would warship statues and animals… we live in a sophisticated world today, and even though science doesn’t yet have all the answers, it offers a lot more logical and rational answers than religion does. If science had existed before naive ignorant people had the chance to invent religion, religion would simply not exist. Well, I can’t say this for certain because, even though today with all this stunning evidence about how nature works, and evolves over time, people still choose to ignore it and go along with religion, perhaps they are to “dumb” or choose not to try to understand the complicity of the universe and would rather blame it on “GOD”
richard dawkins is one of the most intelligent men on the face of the earth. god can’t exist because there is no sort of solid evidence that any kind of god exists, has existed, or ever has a chance of existing. you just believe in god so you can have some kind of explanation to life even though you really have no idea. “think rationally, think logically, think atheist”.
You atheists are going about this all wrong. You should be attacking the theists concept of love. Try to show them that this world is a perfect example of a godless world – that there is no real love in it. That it truly is an atheist’s world.
Of course no one can prove or disprove with 100% certainty that Dawkins exists or doesn’t exist, as with God. However, Cartesian doubt aside, the various properties of a theoretical “Richard Dawkins” (elderly, Englishman, biologist etc.) raise far far fewer questions than the various properties of a theoretical “God” (omniscient, omnibenevolent etc.)
Thus, we are able to more reliably assert the existence of Richard Dawkins.
Okay, I’d like to make something very clear to the author of this blog, who clearly has no idea what he’s talking about.
Science can’t prove anything. Only mathematics has proofs. Science operates on evidence, and with that evidence, we can form facts, and eventually theories. A scientific theory is not, as it is used in layman’s terms, an idea, or a hunch. It is a series of hypotheses and facts, supported by evidence, that has successfully stood up to a barrage of peer review. However, all it can ever be is, “not disproved”. It can never be “proven”. That is simply an impossibility in science.
Now, on the subject of Richard Dawkins. It can’t be proved, just like anything else outside of mathematics. However, there is evidence for his existence, his books, his videos, his lectures, etc. People have met him, and not in the way that Christians have met their God (read: they haven’t), not in a spiritual way, but in a physical, manifested way. We can see him, and it doesn’t take any amount of faith in him to see that. Sure, you have to still rely on your ability to accurately perceive the outside world, but that’s another point entirely.
The point is, you can’t say the same thing, because it is possible to meet Dawkins. We know humans exist. If we knew Gods existed, or anything supernatural, then this would be an accurate comparison. The fact is, you cannot compare belief in the existence of one person, to the existence of a being we have no evidence of having existed ever, outside of the mad ravings of a lunatic fringe that has become the majority.
It’s unfortunate that we have gotten to this point. This isn’t an honest inquiry, or even an honest comparison. It’s an attack on the scientific method. You have a problem with science, and for that I am truly sorry, for that cripples your understanding of the world around you.
I sympathize.
I agree with you. Your point was that atheists have as much faith in Dawkins, when they claim to have faith in nothing.
The thing about God and faith is that it’s not something you can be told about or study or do experiments on… You can only believe through experience and faith and there’s no way to prove these things are real to someone who has not had those experiences. Atheists especially will never have those experiences because they have closed themselves up to them rather than remaining open minded. So it’s easy for a an atheist to argue against the existence of God since language lends itself well to arguments of logic but it’s not as easy for theists to argue for it, because it’s not about logic, it’s about experience that can’t be shared through language.
hey bro, i totally agree with you.. we are winning, and in a sense i wish i could say to all the atheists when they die, “i told you so”, but i can’t/won’t. its just so sad. and to this guy “PassMeThreeMoreNailsForThisChristDouchebag on April 10th, 2009″ as an ex-addict, The holy spirit is the best high i’ve ever experienced! i have seen so many things in my life that the human mind cannot fathem nor prove.. that i know (seen) is of god! How great is he!!!
I don’t know Mr.Dawkins,but I do know “G-D”.His name is “Yaweh” and the great “I AM”.Proof “Yaweh” exists is 1)D.N.A. 2)cell structure (search irreducible complexity) 3)the human eye you are ungratefully using right now(see : God’s Prescription For Healing;a book written by an M.D. eye surgeon,not some humanist philosopher)Also read Case For A Creator by Lee Strobel that includes many scientific arguments for how life truly exists.If you really want proof,seek and ye shall find…look around,all creation is proof of G-D’s handiwork.When archeologists find artifacts or ruins they reason that an intelligent mind created these things pointing toward our ancestors.When we see the craftmanship of a Ferrari or a mansion we don’t think twice about if it is a “natural”occurence or manmade.On the other hand,we do not acknowledge the “design” of life itself(search Intelligent Design;scientific proof of an intelligent creator).Read Romans 1:20,if you dare.This states that man is without excuse for ignoring G-Ds existence because creation itself is proof enough… Amen
All I can see tells me that, if faith is a contagious meme, it is a profoundly robust one. People who don’t marry don’t believe in God (a sweeping generalization, but let’s be real), people who marry do believe in God. People who don’t have children don’t believe in God, people who populate the earth are notoriously religious.
Faithlessness is being weeded out of humanity by our very evolutionary natures. How come?
God reigns.
Sometimes it’s a bitch, but it’s real.
See ya
Bryan
So… Your claim is that atheists are only rejecting Jesus to spite God? Why would I reject anything to spite something that doesn’t exist?
An interesting blasphemy. You deny the existence of Dawkins and then say that there is as much evidence as to the existence of Jesus Christ as there is for the existence of Dawkins. Why are you denying the existence of Jesus our Lord and Savior? You will go to HELL for your sins DEMON!
wait a second, the “author” (if thats what he/she can really be called…) has also included a picture of dawkins, so in actuall fact i beilev we are one up, your turn theism, i see no photos of this sky god, no burning bushes that speek, no faires at the bottom of a garden, so i think that the “author” has beaten us to it lads, there us the evidence to not disprove his existance. (looking up at the previous comment
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I am reading the God Delusion and enjoying it very much as it puts into words many things that I have thought about for years. I converted from Anglicanism to Judaism 12 years ago so have a good knowledge of both religions.
But neither religion satisfied my curiosity about belief in the more absurd claims of the Bible. In Judaism it is believed that God told the whole of the Torah (first 5 books of the Bible) plus much much more, to Moses while he was on the Mountain. And that he memorised it and wrote it all down.
Most Jews know this to be nonsense but do not talk about it for fear of being thrown out of shul. This is the case with Christians and the virgin birth etc. They are all too scared to say anything for fear of becoming outcasts.
There is nothing wierd about atheism. It is the pursuit of truth in the face of massive opposition. Be brave.
I can’t comprehend the stupidity that is required to make a statement like this.
I’m not going to argue that Richard Dawkins exists, because that has been done all too well by previous posters; in better words that I myself could use.
Instead, I’ll contend to you the importance of these two “existences”.
If Richard Dawkins doesn’t exist, what does that matter in comparison to the what you’re trying to claim? Dawkins is mere man, and you’re trying to claim that because we can’t prove his existence (which we can), that therefore a God must exist?
There is such thing as probability.
Just because we can’t absolutely disprove something, doesn’t mean it is somehow magically proven.
You can’t disprove the existence of the Flying Spaghetti Monster, does that mean we should devote our lives to that?
You’re a moron, and your understanding of the world we live in is almost incomprehensibly illogical.
Could black people prove the existence of Martin Luther King 50 years ago?
“How can they be sure that “The God Delusion” wasn’t ghost-written by employees in a sweat shop in the Far East? The answer is, they can’t. Atheists have as much faith as God-fearing Christians do, which is why they are hypocrites.”
Atheists do not consider The God Delusion holy texts..
It’s a fucking book.
The bible is a fucking book.
The difference is that Christians take everything in that book as sacred.
Atheists take Dawkins’ book as an entertaining read, which we may or may not agree with.
Nothing bad happens to us Atheists if we say:
“Richard Dawkins’ book is totally wrong! I don’t believe it.”
Ergo, your arguement is invalidated, thank you for your time.
Atheism is more that stupid… Atheist is like a deaf person, screaming – prove to me that music exists… You know, even some deaf people have enough brains to realise that there still exists something that they will never be able to perceive.
Atheists, I am physicists, I know that in our universe you will always find facts that agree and facts that disagree with any possible theory.
The discussion is worhtless as you think you are the most clever and smart people in the universe, but in fact, you absolutely stupid as you easily, in advance, with stupid smile in your faces condem yourself to be deleted from existance.
You NEED a god. Just be happy the market’s got plenty of them in stock, and in a variety of tastes and temperaments.
I think this is a good point. You can’t prove anything unless you use a formal system, and via Goedel, every formal system that at least admits the positive integers is incomplete. Scientific method is a means of using observation and repeatable evidence to create explanations and hypotheses which become theorys. Nothing wrong with it per se. Religion is a system which attempts to connect us with the eternal, and the spiritual. I think the problem comes when religion is used in place of science. Certainly this use of religion is outmoded and no longer useful. In fact, the only really useful thing left in religion is that which we can share from personal experience. What I mean is, I can’t convince you that god exists; I can only relate my personal experience with god, and go from there. The important thing is the frame of mind that allows us to still experience wonder and magic in the world, and also connect to the part of the universe that allows us to heal the soul. Science is lousy at these things.
If god created man, who created god?
Man.
i would just like to point out that posting a picture of him right beneath you declamation is hardly the best way to prove your point
i’ll be back later to leave a proper comment
4chris10s
A noxious little princess who likes to slur gay men on YouTube but can’t take being slugged back.
can you say sissy?
hey im just a 13 year old kid writing this for some extra credit in my bible class at school. HEY DAWKINS PROVE IT ….
I’m not sure how old this piece of writing is, but I figured I’d add my two cents. Beware before you assume all blames against your faith. I know the feeling, but do not become hostile towards Aethists because some of them attack your faith. Your hostility is likly matching it that you’ve recieved yourself. I do believe Christianty is a religion of love and tolerance? Or so I had heard. Lest you feel like incurring your own wrath against the will of your God’s law, I’d recommend stepping off the twos of others, and therefore permitting others to do the same. Defensive action is acceptable of course. BUT, I did not originaly post to chastise, nor was my intent, in case the above seems as such.
You want me to prove Dawkins exists? Existence is a feeble term. To one extent, one could describe existence as the realistic manifestation of a concept or idea. Following this line of thought, both God and Dawkins could be described as existence. Our perception of reality is the only reality we are currently aware of, and since we make your realities our own, anything could exist: Dawkins’ body, and a sight in God in everything there is. Though this hand is a vague one to follow, the argument could be made, but not strongly.
An (and I emphasize an) actual definition of the term existence is: to have actual conscious; mortal existence. To be mortal means to be subject to death; a transitory life. By this definition, of what what we are aware of, Dawkins would exist, since we define him as mortal. And God? Being immortal? I’m afraid he does not.
Again, I’ll counter argument, by stating the idea that these definitions were spawned from the minds of men, and so can be debatable in interpretation of a definition, despite the concept.
In short sir, with all due respect, asking for one to prove Dawkins existence is too general a task to ask of anyone. The very term is vague in itself, and so cannot be proven in anyway that requires anything else in this world. And those things would need proving by existence, and so on and so forth. This is through the eyes of the utter skeptic. Unwilling to believe what he sees. The disbelief in God? The eyes unwilling to disbelieve what he cannot see. The world is blind by assuming they, and only they, are correct.
I’ve been to both sides, so I’m as unbiased as they come. However, please judge your wordings and tone more carefully when writing. Last time I checked, some of the greatest minds of our humanity were far from “dumb.” Evolution? it’s being taught and accepted around the world still today. Why? Because it works. Perhaps your God meant it that way, but denying the proof behind it, is ignorant. Simply stating it “sucks” sounds childish and unreasoned. And for Dawkins to be the anti-christ, that would require him to gain immaense power and persuasion throughout the world before his death. Last time I checked, he’s an outspoken Aethiest who has conferences on occasion. He’s lacks any sort of large political or economic power, and what social power he DOES have, he has not enough to work anything with. And his age and belief will not help him in aquiring any MORE power. I’m hoping you’ve read the bible, and if so, you know that the anti-christ will rise as does the rapture.
Watch your words, and your call-outs to others. Because someday, someone like me will come along. Some one with a big mouth, an open mind, and a frustration for all who purposely throw up their blinders.
Talk to me. We’ll chat. Have a good one.
that’s possibly the WORST agument I’ve ever heard. Really stretching for ideas huh?
Sadly for me, my mind speaks many words on this topic but of which I cannot put into words for I am not the literary type. Many of my views have been expressed by others and in much better ways than I could put them, but I would like to make a point to all the Theists out there – I cannot speak for all but the majority of us Atheists are not out to criticise, belittle, or sabotage your chosen faith, but the reason many of us are Atheists in the first place is because we have stepped back and looked at the world for what it is, in all its glory, and have taken the facts that are laid out in front of us, whether that be a conversation with a friend, text from a book, or the environment around us as we walk to work, we have taken these things and put them together and made an assessment of the world and of life. I have not believed something because I was told I would be damned to the fiery depths of hell if I didn’t, or because my parents, or a book for that matter, told me I had to, I believed what I saw fit after making my assessment of life, because this consciousness and ability to create my own opinions was somethings I and every other human was born with. Now is this so wrong, should we really all be branded an anti-christ for this so called blasphemy?
Religion makes me very angry, the reason being that so many awful, terrible things have happened throughout history in its name. How is this right and how is it that this should still be happening, right this very minute. It fascinates me that there is something in this world that powerful. I am not one to criticise Theists for their beliefs as I do understand some of the logic behind it, but I ask only this – please don’t hurl abuse at us and attempt to send us to hell for using an ability we were all born with and that is natural. Most of us just find it interesting, I know I do for that is the reason I wrote this comment. If you read back over this list of comments it is a cracking good read.
uh… love this post.
Predictable.
Another ridiculous shot at the brilliant Dawkins.
He has proven more than any religious bigot could ever dream.