Is Religion A Tool To Keep Society In Line? Would Christians Start Bludgening Puppies With Bicycle Pumps If We Realized God Wasn’t Real Tomorrow?
So I am reading all of your posts/comebacks to the atheists on this site. Everything you say accuses us atheists of being horrible people and not accepting other ways. Isn’t that being a hypocrite because you simply are not accepting this as the tiniest bit of a possibility. You say that people who do not believe in god are incapable of love. Well people may love God but that is not the only thing in the world to love. There are many other things, made by a god or not that can be loved and people do not have to believe in the “creator” to have respect and appreciation of these things.
Either way, everything was made somehow and I don’t think that has an affect on how people live their lives. Everyone should be expected to have respect and to be good people by helping others and living a succesful crimefree life. That is common sense. Atheists are not cruel people and are not any different than you except for the fact that we do not have the same belief in what created the world or what happens when we die.
I think that the earth is exactly as it appears to be and isn’t that more believable because what you see is the truth and the saying is “Believe half of what you see and none of what you hear” Christianity was passed on orally until the bible was written so that means a ton of lies were all compiled into a big book.
Also you say atheism is planning to destroy society? Well when has Christianity been declared as the official way of life? God is a theory not fact and there may be so called “evidence” but there are many holes in this theory. And has it ever occurred to you that people know the truth about god not being real and are keeping it from you instead of the other way around? Think about it, if tomorrow Pope Benedict told us God is fake, the crime rates would multiply greatly because of the fact that there would be no hell and we wouldn’t have to worry about the 10 commandments and not sinning.
Religion to me seems like a way to keep society in line and have a reason to be good instead of just enforcing laws because jail is not as bad as this so called “hell” and that would be a greater punishment. But if this theory were proven wrong then people would go crazy and have no reason to be good unless of course you are an atheist and have known all along and are a good person because you want to be not because you have to be or else you will go to “hell”.
That seems conceited for christians because in the end you are just doing it for yourself, not to better or help others but because you are setting yourself up for a good “After life” or to get a place in heaven. You should do good things because you genuinly want others to benefit from your good deeds. Not because you have to! If you want to go to heaven that just means that you are doing these things to benefit yourself in the longrun. So youre good deeds may help now but your breasoning for doing so is skewed.
And if God made everyone wouldnt he “program” us to automatically believe in him? Instead of everyone having different opinions? Just because there are more people who believe in God than not, doesnt make it true. No matter how many people you get on “your side” it is not evidence and never will be. In a million years there will be another view on things and this will be dismissed as being stupid and unrealistic.
Obviously you are clueless and think you are right. But if you open your eyes and see what is even easier to believe than i think you would see things how i do. It is simply impossible.
-Eve Lombardi
Eve I respect your opinion but you’re wrong. You assume that Christians belief is shallow and self-serving, but you don’t give us credit where credit’s due. If any Church figure were to come out tomorrow to tell us God was fake then we would know in our hearts that he was lying. God lives on within us through the Holy Spirit which cannot be denied.
We don’t believe in God just because of the reward of Heaven. Our love of God extends beyond anything as fickle as that!
Your point about God programming us to believe in him is invalid as he has given us the gift of free will to choose to spend eternity with Him or Satan.
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about that whole eternity with him or satan thing. this is not my argument but i heard it somewhere and found it amusing.
who goes to heaven, people who have been really really good. you go have fun playing cribbage with that lot and i’ll be down in hell drinking whisky and watching all the lesbians go at it.
i know its not a valid argument but what the hell, thought i’d put it in.
Eve I respect your opinion (i actually do by the way, kudos) but your wrong. the belief in a personified deity is an extension of feelings of inadequacy. we are terrifies by the big tings that we cannot know or understand. we lump them together , call them god and make up rules as to how to appease them. belief is deep and disturbing as limits us severely. that is why a lot of atheists are scientists. instead of retreating from these issues they attempt to find the answer
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That is what i was trying to say in one of the parts of my “Essay” about people being terrified about the things we cant know so we just try to put our mind at ease and not have to worry about it because we can just tell ourselves that everything is going to be okay and that there is a god. I am actually very optimistic but in the end i think people just die and it is exactly what it seems but i still respect other peoples opinions and their choice to believe in a god or not but i one problem i DO have is that Christians criticize us and say we are satan followers if we voice our opinions but they can just go around making sites like this just to tell us we are wrong! I do think this is a good site though and i do check it often because the opinions are interesting
I Really don’t see anything wrong with bludgeoning puppies, and I’m an atheist.
If the pope said that god wasn’t real, would you believe him?
Up yours (it’s a name, i’m not insulting anyone), I hope you’re being an internet troll.
And i deny your so-called holy spirit everyday. Surprisingly, i have an incredibly good, happy life, and i’m an atheist.
If god told you to kill an orphan by the side of the street, would you? Before u say he wouldn’t tell you to do that, consider he’s told it to people before.